If if you are meh about the job or have a lot of other irons in the fire then say thank you for the opportunity but you feel the salary isnt competitive in such a high COL area and that you dont feel like you can reach a mutually Whats your approach? Eight years later than expected, my switch finally flipped. So, my brief take would be than an ENT who berated has had - 1. a bad experience seeing a PA as a patient, 2. Ted James MD, MHCM Espandi ricerca. Im tired of being physically and mentally drained from talking to patients all day to The clinic I work at had their PA out on maternity leave, and their NP on vacation, leaving the MDs and DOs to work alone. Two other friends/PA colleagues (other out of state singles) left about a year ago as part of an effort to expand the PA role in the UK. I will concur that just about every PA is miserable in their first job, BUT let's also entertain the possibility that this is largely a thankless job and some people really, really will not like it. I'm at a turning point in my own life where I either need to jump ship and take a huge, possibly stupid, risk to be happy in my work, or stick it out until my loans are paid off in 7 more years. It boggles my mind. If I am assigned to an afternoon shift, my work day starts at noon or 2 p.m. We work 12-hour shifts and have six APPs on each day who work at staggered start times in order to provide adequate cover for patient care. And we all appreciate a nice clean work environment. I'm constantly second-guess my decision-making, am worried about my patients, etc. After seeing the patient, I like to touch base with the patients nurse to update him or her. I am fortunate to have found a role as a PA that was so hard to give up, and I have no regrets about "overstaying" my original plan. It's also true that in many areas (surgery especially), PAs are glorified errand boys and girls who are only valued for their ability to write scripts and medical orders. You make your own reality. Physician assistants prefer 'associate.' In nearly a decade in my job, there had never been a window where almost all of my patients were doing fairly well. Other than that, I dont see how you use your degree for anything else. Though I enjoyed it, I spent a fair amount of time saying, "Well, this is how M.D. I feel that many applicants and the public at whole are oblivious to the dark side of the profession and many PAs are to proud to admit to it. I can see both sides of this discussion. Have any of you seen this before? My department alone had 20 PAs, and that's just in a very particular subspecialty; the hospital has hundreds. Im tired of being physically and mentally drained from talking to patients all day to the point where I dont even have the energy to read up/study medicine after work anymore. Lots of happy PAs in my neck of the woods. There'd always been a patient or two that I wanted to make sure I stayed until the end for, and then that would overlap with the next patient. However, I do respect the insight and appreciate the candid discussion. Choose a different career path. It's like an ER doc denigrating a nurse or tech working on a code with them. I am so afraid of hurting someone that I can't sleep most nights. 2018 PhysicianAssistantForum.Com. Next, I gather my thoughts and place admitting orders to address all of the patients needs. If I got stuck on something, I'd check the approach pathways out to see where the next fork would take meI still get my updated book each year. All Rights Reserved. However, it gets me wondering if a switch would even make me happy. The pace of the day can change at anytime in the hospital, so Ive found that I have to try to catch up with other duties whenever I can. Some of those changes aren't good for everyone, who may have grown up around the old paradigm and have those expectations. The only thing I can conceive of segueing into is education- and that requires at least a few years of experience. I'm glad that I stayed the course. All Rights Reserved. Literally - almost everyone is feeling this way as a new grad. I've done outpatient and inpatient in 2 different fields. 2018 PhysicianAssistantForum.Com. Again its been hard to come back after work to get back to learning new skills or even do any classes. Log in. I have not experienced as many of the minuses in my short tenure as I have the pluses. I am able to work fewer days, because one work day is 12 hours, and even though its not always enjoyable to work weekends, there are some advantages. However with the pandemic it really shattered that illusion. Good luck. Between my family and work, I add in some occasional downtime and time with friends, and it keeps me balanced and happy. I answer emails and do paperwork whenever I have a free moment. Any advice would be appreciated. Theres never a dull moment in the hospital! But if it was in healthcare, it would be the path of a doctor. Create a free account to read more stories, or become a member for more access to exclusive benefits! I then go talk with and examine the patient in the ED. I'm happier now & had grown. I get to actually consult with and talk to my attending. A quality healthcare team should always have good communication among its team members. I'll be working every 3rd weekend which is fair, and the procedures are cool. While I am sad to leave, I know it's time for me to move on. Be social, chat, joke. However, I cant foresee myself doing this for the rest of my life. It just depends on what side of the fence you are on. A lot of people probably go to medical school with a romantic notion about hanging up a shingle and being a town doctor somewhere, but it does not often work out that way. Occasionally we even make a difference. I eagerly listened to all the lectures in PA school and spent my year plus on rotations. They went to school 3x as much as a PA. They are medical assistants. 2)Live as cheap a lifestyle as you can and shovel money toward your debt. People in both roles complete a bachelor's degree in pre-med or a similar field, such as biology, nutrition, public health or biochemistry. No matter what you do in life someone will have something negative to say. I feel bad that you don't enjoy your jobhowever, I think its unfair of you to tell every young applicant to steer clear of the profession..ce I actually got off the phone the other day with an MD-derm who wanted to RSVP for an event, and on the tail end of the conversation he asked me about my plans for PA school and then proceeded to tell me how if he could do it all over again he'd become a PA. I'm constantly second-guess my decision-making, am worried about my patients, etc. If I am working a day shift, I am assigned to two of the physicians working that day. Some, as we've seen for some time, don't feel as fortunate and it is not always necessarily of their own doing. Just put your head down, work hard, and earn the respect you want. Well, regardless of my opinion (which is always correct), the entire landscape is totally different now than it was a generation ago and even further from the generation before that. Dropping the kids off at school, volunteering in their classrooms, and taking them to practices are things that I enjoy. I think it's common. I've been kind of noticing this in general too. Some of those then fall into the algorithm model of care, which is more NP than PA, and its a recipe for disaster. I am someone who needs to work and keep busy, but to balance it out, I love spending time with my children. Doctors suspect a power grab : Shots - Health News PAs say the new title would clarify that they work in a team and don't require On a day shift, my work day starts at 6 a.m. or 7 a.m. I try to do all my charting after I see each patient, because you never know what the remainder of the day will bring. See if that changes how your day feels. WebIf you hate it because of the actual work, that is something completely different. Yes it will be a longer path and a harder one, but it will end. My dog, Lulu, has an advanced dog version of ALS, and I plan on staying out of work and with her until the end. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. None of my classmates seem willing to want to admit this. I dont know if Im suffering from the grass is greener on the other side. Physician assistants often work on health care teams alongside doctors, specialists, nurses, therapists and case managers. It sucks. It was a chance at a promotion, and I immediately knew I didn't want it. Press J to jump to the feed. uscareerinstitute.edu. Having access to cutting edge options for your patients. They have bigger opportunities for promotions, raises, bonuses, job mobility. It's a lot of bureaucracy, billing games, ignorant and demanding patients, and massive student loans to boot. I've though about working a meanial job and paying the bare minimum on my loans. I wanted a role where I could be that confident in my skills. Just got offered another job that is hopefully way better than my current one. This book is a study manual for the Medical Council of Canada licensing examsand it's written by current residents/fellows. I've always been what I consider a "switch flipper." In nearly ten years of being there, this had never happened. Job Its nice to know Im not the only one with these feelings. I love working with nurses, and having doctors all consulted on the case and constantly running around the ICU. That doesn't exclude clinical thinking, but MDs aren't around making shit up as they go. Marinerr, every provider coming out is unprepared regardless of your degree. ), but that PAs aren't entirely equipped to shine in all specialties when the usual suspects fail. If they have received treatment at Mayo Clinic previously, it is nice to be prepared with all their recent medical information. For ourselves, and NP's to a lesser degree possibly, we swing in the breeze depending on the demands of, wait for it, the supervising physician that we work "directly under". This amount of practice not only makes you good at what you do in short order, but it also makes you confident in what you are doing. JP: Work-life balance is a difficult thing. Also, I liked the acuity of hospitalized patients and the fast pace and variability of days in the hospital. Communism rules and capitalism is dead (meaning - we're not even allowed to choose our own future as an entrepreneur and open our own practice; even if we hire our own supervising physicians!) Since I started working where I am now, if myself or my opposite number weren't there to cover the am handover period (often pretty ridiculous these days due to every hospital in our region being on diversion), all Hell breaks loose and the whining starts, since they sometimes never get ahead. We really do have a work family. Having great colleagues is what makes me happy to come in to work day after day. But, during my search, I came across a posting for a position at M.D. I like to try to get to know the patient and develop rapport. WebPhysician Assistants earned an average median annual wage of $121,530 in 2021, and the projected growth by 2031 is 27.6%, the 3rd best among jobs with the lowest risk of being replaced by robots. As I reflecting on my time during rotations, I really enjoyed the emphasis on learning and not as much in making money for the practice. Doctoral Degree. And I wont lie.getting my nails done by myself on a weekday afternoon is pretty enjoyable, too! I just don't like what practicing medicine consists of. I was frustrated. She had come around the same time as me, also alone from another state. It is just disheartening and frustrating when my patients have functional/unexplained/vague symptoms that I can't really help or fix. Im even lucky to have gotten a job at the height of the pandemic. On the physician side, from what I can tell especially those in primary care, there is some sort of fear that they are being overtaken by those they deem unworthy to We are a close cohesive group of APPs. How many patients do you see a day? Medicine is only for people who feel joy and satisfaction from working hard to help people in one way. The spectrum of work hours, conditions, level of autonomy, and pay is tremendous; possibly more so than any other direct provider profession. Having a support system made it easy to stay, but I also really loved the work I was doing. Save time & gain momentum along your path by getting the kind of everyday support that a future PA needs. They have been shown to have critical thought too. My daughter Avery is eight years old, and my son Evan is about to turn six. I have noticed that some medical students and residents sometimes have animosity towards PAs but I think that will go away as they start practicing more as an attending. Was shown up as a student or resident by an astute PA or PA student and cannot let go of embarrassment, 3. has a relative who is a successful PA and can't handle it, 4. If youre a PA who is new to hospital medicine or you just want to brush up on your skills, consider attending this years Adult Hospital Medicine Boot Camp. I have more thicker skin now & comfortable to manage whatever comes thru the door & at the same know my limitation. 89. 89. Had interview last week go well. and realize there will be good days and bad days.looks like your having a bad day. sorry about that my friend. I have been a pa since 1996 as we Once I have seen all of the patients assigned to me and have written progress notes and placed orders, I then call the physicians to discuss the patients or meet with them, depending on how busy the day is or how complex the patient is. Not only that but, they have so many good opportunities to escape bedside medicine. They don't know I am now a PA student but we got on the topic of PAs practicing medicine and all hell broke loose. It's also true that in many areas (surgery especially), PAs are glorified errand boys and girls who are only valued for their ability to write scripts and medical orders. Hey fellow new grad! I'm a new graduate. I've been in several different specialties and 5 jobs. Physician Assistants provide healthcare services typically performed by a physician, under the supervision of a physician. I wanted to have enough knowledge that I could look at a scan and be able to tell the difference between two different cancers. A prison of my own making, no doubt. If a practitioner's nurses, physician assistants, and support staff are nervous around them, this is a bad sign. PA functions include performing diagnostic, therapeutic, preventive, and health maintenance services. Jennifer Palermo, MMS, PA-C, is one of nearly 43,000 PAs who practice in hospital medicine. She didn't hesitate or hedge her bets. It will seem plenty unfair. Send comments to reagan@caglecartoons.com and follow @reaganworld on You really wont be able to get into academia until you hit at least 2 years anyway. So, rather than being a story about why I quit, it's more about why I could never bring myself to do it before now. I admire friends and family who were dedicated and put their effort into being a doc. WebAnswer (1 of 2): No. He has a private practice, just him and 2 MAs. Most of the physicians I have rotated through have had nothing but respect for PAs and even told me that while I was on the rotation I would be treated just like a resident. But its hard to give up the golden handcuffs of a 6 figure salary in my late 20s plus, Id disappoint a lot of people including my family. If I think about what I was actually trained to do, vs what I'm doing now, I almost want to faint. Even if you have the same skill set as a physician, you're still expected to work under their supervision. But I firmly believe one is responsible for creating their own happiness, creating their own fulfillment, and creating their own reality. All Rights Reserved. Ill have to see what is out there. I think that this thread shows what one of the primary problems within our profession is and that is the wide swing of diversity, even within the same specialty settings and locales. I also knew that the likelihood of me accepting another position while I was still in a job I enjoyed so much was nearly zero. The worst part is I don't disagree, I feel like when I graduate in May I will not be ready to practice medicine and my only hope is to get a job where I'll have a lot of support to keep learning/training or consider a residency. She said the diagnosis did not match the CT images. The PANCE consists of 300 total questions. What Its Really Like to be a PA in Hospital Medicine - AAPA But in many circumstances, that's fine. Time. You sound pretty run down and stressed. Have you considered leaving your state for one that is more PA friendly? I know it's hard to change your li This website uses cookies to improve the functionality and performance of the website, to better understand how you use AAPAs website and services, and to provide you with a customized experience. The APPs either work day or afternoon/evening shifts. End rant. Most of us want out eventually. Most patients and other providers love PAs. Nature, truth, virtue, are the influx from thence. It's your opinion, but there are thousands of truly happy physician assistants out there. Again, if you're thinking of PA school Take my advice go to medical school. JP: The number of patients I see each day is variable. Younger docs or immigrants or people with good math skills tend to see how much we can add to the bottom line and/or make everything easier. I'm a premed that just graduated from University this year and I'm taking 2 gap years, meaning that I'd apply next year in 2022, and matriculate in There are plenty of providers that see their work as their hustle and at the end of the day just want to make money. JP: Our hospital has 24/7/365 in-house hospitalist physician coverage, and hospitalist APPs are in house from 6 a.m. 2 a.m. every day. Are you me? Im tired of seeing patients. It may be the best professional experience I ever have. Part of me says I should suck it up and stick it out for at least 3 years. (You are allowed 45 break minutes and 15 minutes to train on the software.) I had a rough day today where I legitimately had all of these thoughts and I am up way past my bedtime because of it, but this was so worth the read. For pre-PA help, check out /r/prephysicianassistant. In New York we have no choice but to sell our souls to the doctors and hospitals. Collaboration. That's a facetious comment btw. Personally, stuff like this doesn't bother me at all. I have a great SP. And, they have grits. Our Far Northeast Philadelphia physical therapy center in located on Roosevelt Blvd is looking for a compassionate and driven licensed Physical Therapist to provide exceptional patient care Pay those loans down and call it an interesting chapter in your life. I was an extremely strong student, and despite this, I feel like I'm not cut out to actually practice. Haters gonna hate. She went to meet the patient and learn more about his history. Urgent care, family, occupational, etc. I also like to review their current vital signs, laboratory studies, and any other diagnostic studies they had in the ED. (shrug) You don't need an MD to do MOST of what primary care does. Calm physician assistants make logical decisions, multitask and switch gears when faced with unexpected or complex medical challenges. Yes, the doctor is more prestigious and should know more. Even better than our working relationship with our physicians is the relationship we have with our APP co-workers. I enjoy being a physician assistant because my work is challenging, yet very rewarding. Im tired of no admin time. "If you don't like something, change it. A few months ago, a new supervisor position became available in my department. Once I decide on something, the switch has flipped, and there's no going back. I wish I could wake up 2 years into the future with confidence. This amount of practice not only makes you good at what you do in short order, but it also makes you confident in what you are doing. Contact her at [emailprotected]. Put it this way: if I gave you a million bucks, are you going to hire 3 docs, or like 6 PAs and a doc or doc and a half to back them up? The grass is always greener on the other side. I'd be paying them off forever but God, I'd probably be happy! 4. The two that remain in the workforce study a lot and ask a lot of questions. If that one way isn't for you, you aren't a bad person, it just isn't for you. Beyond the number of PAs, I also had a lot of colleagues that were in the same boat as me. After they had left, I knew I would be ready to go soon too, but I was still waiting for my moment. Theres also all of the sunken cost in quitting. There were times I walked by the custodians and floor sweepers and watched in envy the quietness of their work. I think a buffer of time between jobs will help me adjust to something new. People seek medical care because they are sick. So, I worked my last day at my dream job a few weeks ago. Only deployment overseas to Iraq as an Army Medical Officer gave me the great job satisfaction one would expect to get out of their work. Kelli was listed as the supervisor. They all lacked real patient care experience. Which, I'm sure, was a delight for everyone around me. The PA life for me, thanks. She is the advanced practice provider (APP) supervisor for HIM, and the associate program director for the HIM PA Fellowship. Dr. Bob. As a result, the vast majority of patient care, particularly outside of clinic visits, is handled by APPs. This is a huge statement and is not entirely true. We go in liking the idea of being flexible and having the ability to move among the specialties. I completed a post-graduate PA fellowship at Mayo Clinic in Phoenix, Arizona. Powered by Invision Community, Welcome to the Physician Assistant Forum! While in that role, Palermo realized that she was drawn to the medical side of patient care and that she wanted to be in the medical field. How did you end up in hospital medicine? Not to degrade a profession I want to enter but I can see why doctors feel frustrated too. God forbid, if I needed to run a last minute/surprise errand or take a mental health day. Haha I'm glad and at the same time, sad that I'm not alone. Source: am a new grad in my 2nd week of practice. But don't take the rest of the profession to the crapper with you if you can't. I found the one during the spring of my clinical year. 2018 PhysicianAssistantForum.Com. Ive given up a lot of my golden years being a medical assistant and studying in PA school, missing out as my parents got older and as my friends made memories. Another helpful characteristic of HIM PAs is being obsessive (in a healthy manner) about details to make sure all of the patients medical conditions are addressed and nothing is missed. I tell this to all our new grad hires - everyone is miserable when they start their first job. I have no desire to be a PA anymore. I hate being a PA. By She told the patient what she saw, what she thought, and what the next steps were. Conduct complete physicals, provide treatment, and counsel patients. detman Vice is the absence or departure of the same. If I were going to invest another 2-3 years of training on top of my PA training to optimize my primary care skillset would I take embryology? I had similar feelings throughout school and just recently graduated. It's a powerful feeling to know you are good at what you do, and it's reassuring when those with whom you work trust you to manage patient care at a high level. You have to be able to go with the flow of the day. I guess they are equivalent too according to your 0.02. This is where having longer training periods and many hours of previous patient care exposure kicks in - it develops your "Spidey sense" more. When they are now in their 30s, still making less than $60K as a resident, working an insane amount of hours, and being almost $400K in debt and look at the 27 year old PA, practicing medicine already, making $100K, working ~40 hours a week, with less than half of their debt, I can see why they get frustrated and feel the need to be reminded that they will eventually be better than the PA. Pretty much any stepping stones from here are going to require some experience (1-3 years), unless As recognized leaders in cardiac care, women's and children's services, cancer care, orthopedics and advanced patient-safe Location & Hours 5300 Snyder Ln Ste A I have been a pa since 1996 as well and share some of your frustrations at times. We love PAs and we love working with them. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Yes I think thats probably a big if not one of the biggest parts. Actually, PAs are not the cause if the problem. I have had an ENT surgeon once belittle me for pursuing PA school. I hate medicine, to be honest. I'm ok with parts of the job but not others. Hey, new grad here. The money is pretty good as a PA, but stress and debt make people miserable. Use these steps to guide you on your journey. Join us. The responsibility is daunting, I agree. Welcome to our virtual space for all things related to PAs! "If I could go back in time, I would actually choose a totally different career path; probably as far away from the healthcare field as possible!" For the most part a doc is a doc, regardless of location, and the same I believe holds true for RN's (not NP's necessarily). But, still, we want to find that one specialty that calls us the one that feels like home. Now, Palermo works as a hospital internal medicine (HIM) PA at Mayo Clinic Hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. Must graduate from an accredited educational program for physician assistants.. It's your life and the clock keeps on ticking. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He is clear about his feelings on the PA training (too little too fast), and says when we come out it is "dangerous." The lawsuit Eugene Volokh, Locals Technology Inc. and Rumble Canada Inc. v. Letitia James alleged A.7865A/S.4511 infringes on First Amendment freedom of speech by requiring social Why I quit my career as a PTA and went into the field of Digital Marketing. Geez, why do people have such inferiority or superiority complexes. I was feeling drained and hated my job. 109. You're absolutely right. I hear A LOT of people complain about A LOT of jobs/careers. I agreed with E. Upstate NY. I had this feeling that I didn't want to continue down the road of becoming a healthcare provider while I was still in school. I am not sure if I regret it, but I sure as heck am not planning on seeing patients full-time for the rest of my career. Ultimately I know this is my fault. Being a major research facility, the physicians have many other obligations outside of patient care. I then staff the patient with my attending physician, and, last but not least, I dictate the patients admission history and physical. It won't be long until machine learning allows computers to supplant human providers for diagnostics? I will deeply miss my fellow PAs and my collaborating physician of nearly ten years. February 10, 2014 in Professional PA General Discussion, To all and any who are considering the PA profession as their future career -. I've been practicing for 2 years, which isn't long, but my general impression is that medicine is not the glorified bundle of money and satisfaction it's made out to be. One doc in particular accused PAs of being They moved from out of state; they didn't have family here and came alone. Heck no! Good luck to you! I hope some time passes and this comment holds true. 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