Then, I found out that none of the French nurseries provided any information about the rootstocks. Youd likely still have a window with no fruit, or no great fruit, sometime in fall. Both can crop well as solo trees, and they have different harvest seasons, and they both are extremely high-quality in terms of eating. Which is the best? It is a heavy regular bearer, with fruit averaging 10 to 18 ounces with skin black when ripe. It stops a month earlier than a Reed but the Fuerte starts up the next month. PS High oil content - Sharwil and Hass both >25% oil. http://www.riversun.co.nz/assets/Uploads/Avocado-Rootstock-Characteristics.pdf I appreciate all the documentation! Where approximately in Northern California are you located? I think youre absolutely right not to share more about this tree. Hi David, . Your climate in Temecula is similar to mine in Ramona: a bit hot in summer; a bit cold in winter . Spacing with the Hass is important as well. I counted 51 fruits in this picture. 'Wilma' cold-hardy avocado fruits weigh up to six ounces (182g). I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. My Gwen is only a couple years old now so I hesitate to say a lot about it since my firsthand knowledge is limited at this point. Isnt Sharwil a vigorous variety! Thank you. Aside from their physical differences, the main difference between Hass and Fuerte avocados is their textures. This weekend, Im going to be using your tips for planting an avocado so I can put mine in the ground. Because of your lack of frost, I dont see why you couldnt grow avocados well. Your description makes the tree and its fruit sound very appealing. The Hass Avocado. I would love to grow one or graft a branch onto a tree I have after researching about how great the fruit tastes. Ive been looking for a long time where could I purchase sharwil avocados. We have a central coast house with three citrus trees and was looking for one Avocado tree, I was leaning towards the Sir Prize, with your discussion should I lean towards the Haas as a single tree, or is either a good choice. I saw that you have a Gwen and was curious what your take is on that. You can go two ways about it. Eli mentions that hes swamped with GEM orders, and that he had to save one for me since I contacted him in February because hes completely out of GEM right now. The grove manager said he prefers Hass at no closer than 12 feet. (This is June 22, 2019.) I will tell you later how my adventure is going! Im going to find the least cold spots on and plant the less cold hardy avocados there. My head was spinning, trying to develop the perfect avocado plan for my hillside. I cant imagine between them, my brother and I, that it will be a problem, lol. Could you make a suggestion and where I may obtain that tree. Hi Greg, There are likewise some very old Puebla-type trees where I grew up that I always drive by to check on when Im in the neighborhood. You live in a fantastic neighborhood for growing avocados, as you obviously know. I hope I can answer all of your questions on this topic there. We anticipate that Sharwil avocado consignments from Hawaii to the mainland will total about 180 metric tons per year, equivalent to about one-half of 1 percent of the U.S. supply of non-Hass avocados and to less than one-twentieth of 1 percent of the U.S. supply of all avocado varieties. We are also planting 14 varieties of guaranteed dwarf coconut trees for seed to grow future dwarf coconut seed farms on all islands. But first let me say thank you. I will be planting your suggested trio this spring. The heat was overwhelming (60 consecutive tropical nights, hosepipe ban, more than 100 towns in France had no drinking water). Its just easier to maintain over the long haul. Also, this winter had me buying avocado from Mexico, which is either small and cheaper, or XL and pricey. The main difference is that GEM is a smaller tree, if that matters to you. Maybe I shouldnt have put Reed in that list, but Reed isnt as vigorous as some other varieties such as Bacon, Fuerte, or Hass. I have no idea if it was a great one or a terrible one. So a small Lunchbox avocado becoming available soon is not likely, as far as I can tell. Anyway, usually its for the best that trees shed some of their fruitlets. The only real negative was that the seedcoat didnt adhere to the seed. I have not been able to get a clear answer as to why this is not grown in South Florida. And I hope this post helps you choose your own best kind. In that case, one Hass tree might suffice. The color of a Sharwil avocado stays green when ripe, and has a cold grayish-blue tinge to it. "Hass avocados are alternate bearing - they will produce a big crop one year, and a small crop the next. So I decided to plant a Hass and a Sir Prize which sounded like a great variety. (Theyll both produce some without a pollenizer.) Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. Avocados don't ripen while hanging on the tree. I live in the bay area/delta in Brentwood. Great article, and I agree with your choices of Hass, Reed, and Fuerte, but only if you live in a true mild avocado climate. I will order the combination you recommended. Theyre similar to Reed in both taste and appearance (round and green skin), except that the Nabals I know have a thicker, shell-like skin. If there is excess moisture, your Hass avocado tree might suffer from root rot. This way, if one performs significantly better than the other, then you could replace the poor performer with a tree on the rootstock that you know does well in your soil. 'Greengold' and 'Murashige' are other green-skinned cultivars recommended by CTAHR for commercial planting. I certainly appreciate it when others make clear and quality videos to help me. I like the way you put that. For example, Ive got some avocado trees planted at 7.5 feet apart, and thats a spacing that some commercial growers use. I think this one can make a come back. Haha. Only Fuerte tastes good then, of those youve mentioned. In some parts of our garden, good rich garden soil was added in big quantities.]. Youre right Walter. About the leaves, I think most people just think it looks messy. Oh yes, I found an avocado tree in Nice!!!!!!!!!!! First propagated in 1911 in a California nursery, it got its name - Spanish for "strong" - after a particularly hard frost hit the area in 1913. All of this is very complicated, but very inspiring!!!! Hi Greg, I would like a dwarf variety to keep in a large pot on a deck about 4 miles from the San Diego Coast. I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. Really, grafted avocado trees can kill themselves by fruiting too much too soon. You could eat Sir Prize fruits starting pretty early in winter, and then you could let the GEMs hang late and eat them even through summer maybe into fall except that Covina gets hot, so maybe not. Ive never heard of anyone who is unsatisfied by Gwens eating qualities, and there arent many avocado varieties that achieve such distinction. If ever back this way soon would compensate you gladly to do a quick evaluation of right and wrong approach here. But I have to emphasize that this is just secondhand information. We recommend storing your avocado at room temperature in the fruit bowl until it reaches the preferred ripeness for eating. The tree is supposedly over 40 and is a seedling with both Fuerte and Hass characteristics yet again the flavor has that tanginess only Fuerte has. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. maybe you missed my question on May 2, 2020 or I missed your reply, with 3 citrus trees and room for one avocado on the central coast of California, Cayucos. fireduck. Mateo. For more information visit the NZ Avocado Industry Ltd website or phone 0800 AVOCADO / 0800 286 2236. One, get only the hardier varieties, such as Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, or Puebla. But a number of old Fuertes remain, and like for you, the taste of Fuerte remains the original avocado flavor for me. We just planted our fifth haas (never say die) but when we popped it out of the pot it had white minerals all on the roots and already has a black ominous patch on the trunk- just from being watered on our deck from the hose for several months. For those who have a large yard, Martin. Should I avoid planting a Reed here? It seems that I should have bought the first Ettinger I saw five years ago. I say sad because avocados must be the easiest trees on the planet to prune. We might be on to something. (Note: I took this photo in June, at the tail end of the Fuerte season, at the height of the Hass season, and at the very beginning of the Reed season.). reading on other forums, ive seen comments that its better in the long run to plant a smaller size tree (3 gallon +) compared to a larger 15+ gallon size tree.that the smaller size tree will out perform and out grow the larger gallon size in the future. They have both Reed and Hass, both Duke 7 and Dusa. In terms of comparing it to the taste of other avocados, thats tricky for me. Guaranteed meaning: We have grown trees in areas away from tall trees, so not to be pollinated by them. Tamp the soil down around the tree's . or either OK? 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Learn how you can support The Yard Posts here. I want to reorder a Hass (on Duke-7), as you recommended earlier. (Both Reed and Hass produce more than Fuerte in my yard.) Thanks. Yes, there is nothing like finding those 100 year old avocado trees. Thanks for the kind words. Make sure that you water the tree every day to retain the moisture, and remove it to an area that still gets sunlight during cold weather moths, but is protected from frosts and freezes (a large sunny room is perfect). Hass avocados make up 95% of all the avocados eaten in the USA but you may be surprised to learn that the humble Hass is one of the newest varieties of avocado and didn't even exist before the 1920's. Phoenix Avocado (Mendez No.1) Aravaipa Avocado Palo D'Oro Avocado Hellen Avocado Sharwil (Kona Sharwil) Ardith. One of the challenging things is actually figuring out the season for each time and what that season is for those varieties in the location it is planted. I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. Oh!, and do I ever miss a good fuerte which I used to sell off a fruit truck next to Golden Gate Park in SF in the 70s. Florida's avocado trees grow to be between 30 and 65 feet tall. I know Sylmar, and I would guess that my neighborhood is slightly milder than yours even though my area is also on the hot side in summer and chilly side in winter, as far as most of Southern California goes. Trees are medium growing and yield nearly year round. Cliff. Whip vs. side grafting considerations. They grow great but just dont produce as much fruit. Step 6. They will never let you down or change their form. Wish me luck! My third choice would be Hass and Lamb. During the big freeze a few years ago, the temp got so low that it killed a lot of local avocados. Ive enjoyed reading your posts as I consider my Avocado plant. The Different Types According To Region Of Origin Horticulturally, avocados are classified into three categories, based on the regions of their origin. If the only Hass avocados youve had are from the grocery store, then you have no idea. by Laurie Meadows. For anyone in the bay area I recommend Pinkerton and Lamb. The challenge Ive heard others in your area having is with occasional cold snaps in winter (taken care of by your greenhouse) and such cool spring weather that B types dont set much fruit. Im sorry but even though that farm has Sharwil avocado trees growing, the trees are too young to have a substantial crop and so they havent started selling the fruit. Wish Maddocks was open on the weekend so i could check it out. Compared to Hass, its harvest season isnt quite as long. Were planting a minimum of 5000 trees using a high density planting design and will foliage spray. They arent peculiar in flavor to me, they just taste like everything I hope for when I think avocado.. But Im guessing. I live in San Diego, about 7 miles away from the coast. Thanks so much for this update. We may have an improved Fuerte. Please find attached the pictures of the avocado tree in Nice (the variety is unknown, picture taken on the 1st of November). You have me sold on the year-round Hass prospect. Hass x 4 Reed x 3 Sharwil x 1 Unknown grafted x 1 Fuerte x 2 Ettinger x 2 Wurtz x 1 And a few seedlings. Elizabeth, 27. Greg Another which 2 trees are best question. By the way, I have a few other Hawaiian varieties growing that Ive never tasted and am wondering if youd recommend giving any of them more or less attention and space: Murashige, Malama, Nishikawa, Kahaluu? The last tree has very little green although it does look like new green. They seem to be especially common on trees in your neighborhood. I enjoy hearing your feedback on Holiday. This way youll likely have some years with fruit on all but some years where the tender ones get some damage. Plant a couple little vegetables in the spot to see how they do before planting new avocado trees. I also purchased a Sharwill and Green Gold from Atkins Nursery last year, but they arent the best trees as they were burned pretty bad from last summers heat wave. What would you recommend? Conventional belief is that avocados were first brought to the Hawaiian territory in the very early 1800s by Don Francisco de Paula Marin, Kamehameha the Great's interpreter and confidant. Yes, I like Nabal. 100% Hawaiian Sharwil Avocados. A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. When you talk to them they are totally clueless. Thanks. Just got some bee hives in this year and a decent fruit set, just hope the heat stays mild this summer. Ive driven through Mendocino and farther north many times, but havent seen bearing avocados growing up there with my own two eyes. 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