Thank you. This is exactly why the IFB has such a negative reputation, for decades of dealing with sex crimes in-house, in secret, and without the proper authorities. In your heart, you know why you reached out to dull the pain and it wasnt because of some imaginary Devil anymore than it was an imaginary God who saved you. This action, in most states, is criminal. I have dealt with sexual misconduct in a church and I will STILL say that I hope this lady gets some healing throughout this process and hes charged with as much as possible. Golden State Baptist College (GSBC) is an independent Baptist Bible college in Santa Clara, California, offering bachelor's degrees and master's degree programs in fields related to Christian ministry. and with a gracious smile and amen. These kind of laws apply to pastors, counselors, doctors, lawyers, social workers, dentists anyone who has a professional relationship with someone else. And the jerk will sin again and harm someone. After the service, the mother of the pregnant girl wept hard and grabbed me and kept saying He promised us I asked her what she met and then she explained about the rape and the promise made to her. 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He showed me that even the man we are supposed to trust most, could not be trusted., Jackson opened up publicly up about the experience she had with Giovanelli in 2018 and launched a blog called Letters of Freedom., Giovanellis lawyer told the court on Monday that his client accepts responsibility, according to The Baltimore Sun. Also as far as the law is concerned, its true that she cant consent because of his position of authority over her, but the Maryland law states that in this case if she is 16 or older, its only 4th degree sexual misconduct with maximum punishment of 1 year in prison and $1000 fine. Tipping him off immediately damages the integrity of the investigation. Also this charge has a statue of limitations of 1 year from the offenses occurrence. But attacking a church that had NOTHING to do with what this man did is unnerving ! Still, I have to object to the false idea that being saved changes people essentially from sinners to something else. In this case, Im glad Shiflett is speaking up, but given the possibly criminal nature of whats going on, I am cringing at people handling anything inside here. Here, Shiflett takes on a big name IFB leader and megachurch to defend a rape victim, yet the rest of his social media tells awhole other story: from shaming and vilifying shooting survivors and victim families (which really is just sick), to jokes about waterboarding and torture. Your mindset is 2018. Any and every societal classification is going to have its horribly bad apples. Approximately 30 years ago, Dr. Jack Trieber began to see the need to train men and ladies of our church and nearby churches for full-time Christian service. My fear is the the church will bury you now because you are not willing to be on the team. Also I believe the statue of limitations of this crime said it was one year after offense occurred which would have ran out 11 years ago. Hey, God has forgiven him and so should we. The pastor and church board never gave a full accounting of the whats and whys of this mans behavior and their culpability in the matter. Golden State Baptist Schools in Bakersfield, California serves 12 students in grades Kindergarten-12. Then the video was uploaded on Friday morning because the situation wad not handled right and the people were misinformed. I suspect you are about to discover that your religious overlords are going to dump on you, to use Jesus himself to harm you. When I watched this video, I almost couldnt believe it. The world was way different. This is especially the case when I consider that people rarely abuse just one minor. It is very common in religion to do what you are doing and speaking as if Christians deserve a good name. "Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." I updated the post with this link. Jesus Never Fails. The other sad thing is I have looked at the law in Maryland and because 16 is the age of consent there, the only thing that he could likely be charged with is for him maintaining a relationship with someone under 18 in which he had an authority position over. View Sebastian's full profile See who you know in common Get introduced . You can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. Threads 16 Messages 138. a ministry of North Valley Baptist Church of Santa Clara, California. The victim sued the church. To be frank, using a scripture out of context to try and influence a victims behavior is a form of manipulation and emotional abuse. Immerse yourself in college life by attending classes, joining chapel, meeting students and staff, and making new friends. Send us prayer requests, make an online payment, and more! Please consider your ways and change your mind. The accuser, Sarah Jackson, said she attended the churchs school and also baby-sat for Giovanellis family. And realize that when you suggest another Christian maybe wasnt really saved because they erred in some miserable, sick way, you are doing so to cover over your own pain. Let us know what God is doing in your life. Along those lines, its worth noting that sometimes you get slightly different reasons for covering things upfor example, no Buddhist or Jew uses 1 Cor. When the victim finally went to the police, Shiflett said: I was so aggravated that all of my efforts to try and get this thing handled, to minimize the damage to the cause of Christ, the word in the community, to minimize the collateral damage that always happens with something like that. America's largest Protestant and second-largest Christian denomination is being roiled by a sexual abuse scandal that casts a harsh light on one of the most politically powerful religious groups. Lets hope thats not the case. Take a look into life at GSBC. 3,456 were here. Gray says its the man of Godsduty to respond in defense of the accused.. The internet has also played a big part in keeping these men from leaving town under a cloud of suspicion, only to show up on the other side of the country pastoring a new church. If there are more victims that come forward that could change tho. The police probably should have handled it because its quite possible that he has hurt her chances of a criminal suit because hes gathered evidence and blasted it over the internet. The students were stunning, and it was an unforgettable night for all involved. I think they handled it as best they could under the circumstances you stated. 2011. Student Reviews of Golden State Baptist College, a Baptist, Non-Profit, King James, Bible, Institute, founded in 1996, and located in Santa Clara, California, USA. one person sharpens another. One church I know of had a man who sexually assaulted teen boys twice. Nothing will ever get better as long as people stay silent. Calling Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Christians apostates and heretics. The problem starts with pastors thinking its their divine right to be judge and jury. So so sad. Who is Bruce Gerencser and Other Questions According to ChatGPT? As often happens when taking a stand for whats right when its not the popular thing to do, droves of people reach out in private to show support but in public, its just crickets. Must one know Christ how does someone know a corpse? where is the news coverage there is only accusations for months now i dont fall on either side of this becouse there has been no proof you can say he resigned yes he did however that was not an admission of guilt and we dont know why it was done so i ask any updates. ), Perpetrators can repent. But thats not the churches job to investigate in a criminal matter and its not their place to get justice. Game over Pastor. GSBC College Days Don't miss out on College Days at GSBC! That said, all that matters on this issue is that the victim finds healing and the perpetrator is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The goal was to get an apology and the accused fired from the church,so he doesnt do it to anyone else. The end. "Golden State Baptist College students are expected to go soul winning for a minimum of three hours per week." I dont see any evidence that fundamentalism as a whole has a cover-up problem any more than any othergroup. Find helpful information about Golden State Baptist College. Future Students Find helpful information about Golden State Baptist College. You dont saybooh. www.BBC.edu. We actually know how to read. Even if its not criminally prosecutable now, its character witness for the next time hesaccused. The Christian Post reached out to both Immanuel Baptist Church and North Florida Baptist College for comment on Giovanellis sentencing. Dont be so quick to believe every bad story you hear. Get it documented by the police. He instilled things in me that took me years to realize. You may know how to read, but . As with Jack Schaaps victim, IFB zealots will say the victim seduced Giovanelli; that she was a willing participant; that she is in it for the money. If you want to lead a revolution against rape culture, you cant have your cake and eat it too. Brian, you dont know Christ so you have no idea what you are talking about. Let us know what God is doing in your life. Even though there are some gaping holes in your message, I can tell you that for the first time in almost ten years, I have this small twinge of faith and hope in IFB leadership. North Valley Baptist Church has a history of this behavior. About GSBC Golden State Baptist College is an independent, fundamental Bible college. Should we keep repentant perpetrators away from church altogether? Playing the true Christianity is not a religion wont work here. (No mention of the victim though Giovanelli is the real victim here!). And,fuck off. According to the law, we have to report theseproblems; We should investigate. In feeling, in allowing myself to feel and to talk about that in my family history (child of preacher) I was finally free to say goodbye to church, to faith, to sin, to all the sick ideas of religious indoctrination. The courage it takes for a woman (or man) to publicly tell their story is amazing. And none of this is in the NT bible. Its not that they shouldnt forgive, but that the wounds are so fresh that justice should be the first concern. Let's not forget that, Why revival must be tethered to Scripture, Revelation 9: The pit, the smoke and hideous demon creatures, Arkansas Baptist State Convention failed to report abuse allegations against pastor, lawsuit claims, Former NewSpring volunteer sentenced to 75 years for sexually abusing kids in daycare, Megachurch pastor resigns over allegations of sex with 18-year-old members of youth group 17 years ago, Alleged abuse victims sue Catholic Church, say they were pressured into taking unfair settlement. Imagine how much better it might be for sexual abuse victims if their pastors not only listened to them but acted morally, ethically, decently, and responsibly on their behalf. This was a man whom I was being raised to trust. Perhaps the fact that this video is so uncharacteristic of fundamentalism is what makes it so noteworthy. Had to be such a miserable life. We must also manage the congregation. Im saved! Plan to visit GSBC on March 27-28, 2023 for two action-packed days. All you know about Jesus is what little is said about him in the gospels and what preachers have been saying about him for the past 2,000 years. There are very clear leadership implications from the constellation of commands Paul gave Timothy in 2Timothy. If any is found, prompt removal will be requested by staff. Walkin' by Faith. I understand you have a right to your opinion just as I have a right to mine. The second is an extended family connection to a well-known situation. You have to ask yourself what your priorities are the safety and well-being of victims or your popularity and social status? Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson thinks he redeemed himself. Please keep our ministry, the Giovanelli family and all others involved in your prayers. Thank-you Jesus for the structure of faith that not only allows us to harm ourselves and others but is designed to do exactly that. He was not saying that what happened was consensual. Dell'Osso Family Farm. United States. She originally wasnt going to press charges but because NVBC mishandled the situation on their live stream with their statement,she pressed charges Thursday morning. There are slanderous vindictive people that are willing to make up horrendous lies- either for attention or revenge. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. What doesnt work here is not religion, but Jesus Christ. That is by far the most important thing you could have done. First Day of Classes 2022. And I normally dont comment on stuff like this, but I see a lot of people weighing in and bashing that church for what they should or shouldnt have done and accusing of a cover up etc. Yes, some fundamentalists have had a problem with cover-ups. I agree that churches shouldnt cover up crimes like this and Im glad we agree that the other pastor should have immediately gone to the police. I dont think I have ever been prouder of a fundamentalist preacher in all my life. On May 11, 2018, the victim, Sarah Jackson, posted the following on Facebook: Stacey Shiflett, the current pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Maryland the church Giovanellli pastored when he allegedly assaulted Jackson released the following video: Theres much about this video that irritates the living hell out of me, especially the fact that the pastor investigated instead of immediately calling law enforcement. I Did, and He Didnt. Your sin will ALWAYS find you out. I know the alleged victim was not happy about what was said, or that it wasnt said the way that she wanted, but it was likely handled that way for that reason. Therefore itsays, Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead,and Christ will shine onyou.. Return to homepage. Brian knew Christianity for many, many years, as did I. King David said, Uriah died in battle? Golden State Baptist College General Communication and Media Studies. 2019. 2022. She will pursue justice in court & our church will continue to support her. You clearly believe that your faith has helped you to be open and truthful. It is a national epidemic! Cameron Giovanelli, the president of Golden State Baptist College an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) institution operated by Pastor Jack Trieber and North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California, stands accused of repeatedly sexually assaulting a church teenager when he was the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Those accused of crimes are innocent until proven guilty. In 33 ad, Christ was radical. Shifflet took it down. I actually think Pastor Shifflet was unwise in the statement he made, even if it was true and it was how he felt, for that very reason. A lot of these Sex Perps are into child pornography. GSBC is a school designed to train preachers, evangelists, missionaries, and Christian workers for the 21st century. Santa Clara, California: www.GSBC.edu. I know she filed the charges, but I havent heard the outcome. A wrong understanding of forgiveness andrepentance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVLn59Ujg-o, Or, you can youtube Response by Pastor Stacey Shiflett to North Valley Baptist Church. He also talked about the positive relationship he had with his own previous abuser who groomed him early in his ministry. I say let the police handle it. See his Twitter for more info confirming this. You cant put a band-aid over a tumor and think the cancer is going to go away. This a longer Sunday message. When I was a Christian, I still suffered and went for therapy to talk and to get help with feeling what was really troubling me. Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government. If someone in the given situation wishes to personalize it and raise awareness of a problem thats fine, but we also need to be careful that an unwarranted stereotype is not wrongly attached to fundamentalism as a whole, as though just being a fundamentalist means you are a coverer-up of a rape culture. The married pastor served at that church from 2004 to 2014, and later became president of Golden State Baptist College in California. Your ability to seek assistance and to bring balance into your life deserves praise. Ask Bro. Lauren, I am happy to know that you have managed your addiction but among non-believers what you have accomplished is replacing one excess with another. Pray for everyone involved in this unfortunate situation. Ive gone through Sarahs posts twice. The campus is equipped with a "dating parlor" with arranged chairs and tables for activities and seating. Id suggest you watch the movie Spotlight to see how ugly this practice canget. In May of 1995, [] It is virtually unheard of to have an IFB pastor, his deacon board, and entire church supporting a victim in a situation like this. Its kind of a lose-lose situation for them because they wanted to address the situation and not make it look like they were trying to cover it up (to me I really dont think they are doing that since he doesnt work there anymore and I think I read hes been banned from coming to the church), but they cant just say hes guilty and all that on a nation stream when the courts havent proven that yet. View their 2022 profile to find tuition cost, acceptance rates, reviews and more. Many of the books published by NVP are written by the college's chancellor, Dr. Jack Trieber. And barring prosecution, I hope the perpetrator will never be permitted to pastor or work with children/teens again. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. 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