But you can`t go to secret serrvices and ask them: "guys, are you OK with my words or are you going to prosecute me?". I had a phase where I had an intense fear of becoming a sociopath and ending up in jail. Same with you, wanting to go and ask the secret services for reassurance only maintains your belief that getting jailed is a likely outcome of this. Richard Rahl By talks I mean the process of psychitherapy. Accepting these thoughts will help you understand your fears better as well. I CHOSE TO DO THESE THINGS. I also have always been afraid of law enforcement unnecessary. Instead go to the things you fear. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. It can be different for your case. What would a courtroom say?". Even if this possibility were real, how should I behave? But resisting the experience might only make it worse. In the nineteenth century, it was known as The Doubting Disease. Hit and run obsessions fall under a subgroup of doubts about having harmed others through some kind of negligence. The headline might just have well have said, Killer has brown eyes.. Right now, I'm stuck on the fear of going to jail because of my real event OCD. WebFear of doing something illegal and going to jail Something that I can't get out of my head is the fear that I might go to jail because of doing something illegal by accident. Im so predisposed to thinking Ive done something wrong, even when I havent, that I can totally imagine myself giving some nonsensical incoherent false confession. Wholesomealive is an online healthcare media publishing website. What about anty-anxiety meds? Do they help with OCD? Im insanely nervous around police, and I have never committed a crime, I have police in the extended family, and I dated a police officer. I think I would prefer to die than to experience years of prosecution, trial and imprisonment. You know it's an OCD (unrealistic) fear when checking it out and getting reassurance still leaves you feeling doubtful. I immediately assume that I've done something wrong and that they're going to haul me off to jail or kill me. Also during this time I lost 3 jobs in 2 years from being laid off Im a good worker it was just bad timing. Having someone you can talk to can be a blessing in many ways. Wholesomealive.com is reader-supported. I used to worry about being wrongly arrested for a crime I didnt commit and being sent to jail. Sign up for a new account in our community. By Fast forward about a year I was living with my girlfriend in her house and we just bought a dog and I had a decent job working at an asphalt plant making better money and not killing myself everyday, things were okay. I posted a similar thread over on the anxiety board. I try to tell myself the fear spiral is NOT the obsession or the problem, but rather the OCD desperate for absolute certainty in an uncertain world. Or something else? I visited Youtube channel that often criticises Kremlin. I said some "poltical science stuff". I can`t totally discard probabilty of secret service It's easy! Bizarre thoughts are common in OCD. We`ve been discussing methods in political science and I mentioned that rational choice paradigm can explain terrorism and portrays terrirists as rational actors. Please read below for more information and resources about about OCD and the subreddit. Any advice is appreciated. Your obsession over this suggests that you're not the awful person you worry about being, since you never actually hurt someone in school. I've experienced some racial discrimination at least twice, but I've always been a well-behaved, law-abiding citizen. ), what they really fear the most is the emotional state they associate with that event, and their actual worst fear would be experiencing that emotional state forever. Yes! I feel like I don`t know. I read books, I play games, but fear thought are "floating around". It`s like I must stay constantly vigiliant and supres Press J to jump to the feed. Notices Visit our Anxiety Center to learn more about Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Obsessive Compulsive You have to accept your fear is out of proportion to reality and that reassurance seeking and other compulsions (asking lawyers, checking youtube, deleting things) is what keeps the fear active. Ive never met anyone with that fear besides myself, thank you for telling this helps a lot. Hence, if you are wondering what if OCD fears come true, I suggest you not read too much into these thoughts. At first your anxiety will probably increase because you're not doing any compulsions to relieve it, but remind yourself that although the way you feel is real, the thing making you feel that way is just unrealistic thoughts. This particular therapy option seems to be effective for 70% of the cases of OCD and complex PTSD. Sign up for a new account in our community. My psychiatrist says that I need to stay for some time in hospital, so that they could administer mor drug-intensive therapy. I was pretty much a human forklift. The support of others is critical at this time. Then you know what you're trying to stop. I don't think anyone has said this yet but you need to address the numbers thing. I wisited doctor and I think this was right thing to do. Please read below for more information and resources about about OCD and the subreddit. The next step is attempting to stop taking these thoughts personally. Please read below for more information and resources about about OCD and the subreddit. My sister is a Poli sci grad student and we live together. I relate to the secret list. Just learn from it to become a better person and employee. It might, or it might not be the case. WebWhat are the symptoms of OCD? +1(415)-323-0836 (Whatsapps), [emailprotected]. If you would like to receive an email when new content is available, please enter your email: Dr. Michael J. Greenberg, All rights reserved 2023. This isn't really the best thing to do since it's an OCD "check" but it gave me a tool. However, there is a general recurring theme that characterizes the disorder. It was awful. But perhaps the worst part of OCD is this feeling of total powerlessness to exert any control over them. And once you go through all of this, I hope you come back for more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FauaBJGZtNk, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFQ8Ub_TD78&t=0s, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGyW1Rp1Y2g&t=0s. WebHow rational is this fear/am I going to jail. There were members of the royal family, the press and security people around. I used to be afraid of rabies, HIV and cancer, but now the thing that fears me most is Russian state. The person with OCD avoids doing anything that could potentially lead to their Core Fear (avoidance), and feels compelled to do things to protect themselves from their Core Fear (compulsions). This means that I generally tend to have bizzare thoughts, Privet Richard. I went through a phase of this. Because your thoughts are fear-based, its important not to avoid them. by coconutjam82 Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:31 am, by coconutjam82 Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:31 am, by coconutjam82 Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:18 am, by coconutjam82 Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:51 am, by sillycaterpillar89 Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:16 am, by eightpencils Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:52 pm, Return to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) Forum, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 36 guests. They happen often and cause great anxiety. But first, this section highlights a few strategies that might help you lessen your OCD fear of going to jail and other sorts of fears, too. I told the doctors my story and they diagnosed me with OCD/Ruminating Thoughts. The obsessions and compulsions that characterize OCD can center around different themes. When I used to do these searches, I told myself it was to prove that sort of thing doesn't really happen but I end up convincing myself I'd be the first. However intrusive your thoughts may seem at times, its important to remember that you may not have OCD. I came across the NoFap subreddit and saw that it was helping these people with depression and appreciating their significant others and I was willing to try anything. Fear of my kids being taken away is a big one for me too. Even if you get temporary relief the doubt (and fear) always returns soon after. For instance (sorry for details) several years ago I found a lump on my testicle (sorry again) and got immediately scared that it is testicl cancer. Put another way, they lose their sense of agency. is there any good resources about self-help with OCD online? My New Year is ruined ( A program offers compassion, empathy and they are being treated as a human being. I had an amazing, beautiful girlfriend who was very supportive that I did not live with at the time. WebIt is important to understand that OCD can make a person uncertain about the most basic things that they think, see, hear, touch, or experience otherwise. Research evidence suggests that people suffering from mental health conditions like OCD are more likely to be victims than actual perpetrators.. Realistic fear quickly goes away once reassurance has been received. I also feel a lot of guilt over things I may have done. You can manage it more with a better response system. It's going to take hard work every single day. Its just not relevant to the crime. but I think its more appropriate here since it The best thing you could do is to consult a professional. Its definitely not healthy :( . A subreddit dedicated to discussion, articles, and support regarding OCD. There are several resources and experts that specialize in treating OCD. No scheduling or phone calls. That's a shame, Richard. I have no doubt CBT would help you, it's even used to help schizoid disorders quite commonly now. But if theerapy isn't on A subreddit dedicated to discussion, articles, and support regarding OCD. She says that my problems and emotional traumas run much deeper, that CBT can help. For example, both conditions are characterized by intense irrational fear. So, rather than fearing what hasnt happened, its better to focus on your present. I wrote a more detailed response to OP on this same thread and I'd recommend giving it a once over. At this time, very little is known about toilet anxiety. In OCD the thing we fear always seems very real and very likely to happen unless we do the compulsions to stop it. So much so that they cant put it past them and start falling into the loop of intrusive thoughts.. In RF-ERP the primary goal of exposure is to learn that you have a choice, regardless of the outcome. Fear of acting out may be most prevalent in the following obsessions: Aggression - thoughts of harming others or of harming oneself Sexuality - thoughts of changing orientation or of engaging in unwanted sexual behaviors Religion - thoughts of violating religious rules Morality - thoughts of engaging in immoral behavior This Is Where Going to jail is my number one fear, and I always imagine my life if I went to prison, like surviving in the prison, trying to find a job when released, shame from family and friends. I'm not asking for a diagnosis but could this potentially be a form of OCD? First of all, I have real event ocd, so I get it. About a year ago I was hospitalized because I hadnt slept for 2 weeks straight because of anxiety and OCD. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. However police may think otherwise, if my student informs police, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. I've had harm OCD for many many years, and have come to expect to have thoughts that in some people would be worrisome, or sociopathic. I realize that this is irrational. Additionally, they may use emotional reasoning where one regards their emotions as facts. NOT LOOKING FOR SYMPATHY. That means when those thoughts come up, instead of ruminating, just say, You know, I cant be certain about what will happen. Like, Im 99% sure I havent done anything to be thrown in jail for, but its still my second biggest fear. If you or someone you know is contemplating suicide, please do not hesitate to talk to someone. * Sometimes this requires teaching them how to exercise control (e.g., how to stop ruminating). At the end of the summer I was told they had to let someone go and I was the newest so I lost another job. Not even just about law enforcement, if something ever happens where I feel someone might ask me about my side of the story I would have a checklist in my head of things to go over when speaking to them. Hey, Im not OP but I obsess a lot if I had a breakdown relating to my theme and blurted out things I didnt do on the internet or forums because I may have lost control of myself and forgot. There are many categories of OCD. Not making excuses and I know Im a piece of shit for this it just added to my terrible Mindset at the time. I Need to Be Dead: I Am Fed up With My Life! I wish I never wisited that Youtube channel and never spoke for it. I tried and failed multiple times and eventually got a really good streak going. Could you buy one for delivery to Russia, or download an e-book online? Tbh I think most police in most places would look at a person that came in and said at nine they wanted to hurt a classmate, like they're nuts. The person with OCD is like someone with a gun to their head. OCD symptoms are thus strategies that the person with OCD uses to protect themselves from their Core Fear, whatever that might be. The framework begins with the idea that everyone has a worst fear. I am not ready to discuss political situation in Russia. The best I can do is to go by my therapist's word that I've done no wrong, and that the "victim" seems to be fine and even told methat I've no need to apologize. do you have any personal experience with the cases when OCD is a symptom? Also I cry a lot - can this be the sign of depression? First post on this forum. Maybe you can teach her about treating OCD! That's a shame, Richard. So, talking yourself through these thoughts should help you rationalize better. These thoughts will likely happen anyway. I KNOW IM AN AWFUL PERSON I JUST NEED HELP SO I CAN MAKE THIS RIGHT. I get severe anxiety whenever I'm around the police. It doesnt have to mean that something has gone wrong in your nervous system. For some though, the fear can be very overwhelming. Join the conversation! Healthy 23 year old men who are abstaining from PMO in my experience make awful decisions. But having these thoughts can nonetheless seem scary and evoke more fear. I got a ticket for throwing a cigaretter out of my window when I was 19. It's a very scary thing :/. So if you're fearing jail, watch YT videos about jail, look at riots about being in jail or vividly write a paragraph or two of imaginal exposure, talking about your worst prison related fears. Ideally this should be done with help from a therapist (or understanding what you're doing by reading about it yourself). She says that my current emotional condition and public speaking won`t just how to say it.. work out? Oh my gosh, I CONSTANTLY have this, too!! Fear of getting OCD may result in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ive asked my best friend and my dad about it, and they said that nothing will happen, but I am still ruminating. It is unlikely that these fears will ever come true. Like what if I don't fill in this paperwork correctly and have to go to jail or get in a lot of trouble. It's said that OCD usually kicks off when we start dedicating too much attention to too our intrusive thoghts. These fears could be about anything. In OCD the thing we fear always seems very real and very likely to happen unless we do the compulsions to stop it. OCD is crippling if you leave it without treatment. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. To be honest, I am even sometimes thinking of commiting suicide as a means to end this constant anxiety. I understand sometimes people really do get jailed in Russia for their political views, but ask someone with fears of bacteria and they'll say the likelihood of illness is real, people with responsibility fears will say they 'should' feel responsible and so on. Is there a concrete way to accept this and live in peace regardless? Fear of going to jail also seems to be a common complaint about people with OCD. The thing is, that you can recover from OCD and medicine is not a necessity to do so. I said nothig against Kremlin, but I can`t stop microanalyzing my words. Hemophobia: Fear of blood Latrophobia: Fear of doctors. Though doctors and dentists are the most common objects of medical-related fear. It helps. It really helps. My doc says that my OCD is a symptom of more general shizotypical disorder and so meds are more important than anything Learning to live with uncertainty about the future and the past is so freaking difficult though. Accepted the possibility that it might happen. Furthermore, I'm reminded of a technique from Katie d'Ath's videos on YT, talking about an effective strategy to counter OCD. One day after work with NoFap brain I read something about Asian massage parlors and googled ones in my area. How to Be More Aware of Your Surroundings? DUDE. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. It may be that your fear of going to jail OCD has developed because of an event in your real life. I would think this falls under intrusive thoughts. Thank you for this comment. Ask our community of thousands of members your health questions, and learn from others experiences. This is their Core Fear. CBT can teach you to see your obsessions in a new light and overcome your compulsions. what ifshe was in denial and finallysnapped , what if she finally remembered things that I couldn't remember) and decided to press charges? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I said some "poltical science stuff". Dude, I have this too! It may have been why you have decided to click on this article. You can't go to jail unless you commit a crime punishable with jail time. Checking? Your mindset has to change to a recovery mindset if you want to get better. By It is incredible how our thoughts can seem pointless once we voice them aloud. So, its okay not to panic when you get these thoughts. Doing so would take the threat out of these thoughts. I am afraid that I am lying to myself and painting a better picture of my character than I deserve. I was terrified I was going to jail and they'd throw away the key. Powered by Invision Community. The only problem is that in Russia you really can be jailed for political views. The Extra thing only happened twice out of all of these visits. Fear of contamination (germs, viruses) 2. 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